Monday, May 11, 2009

Where should the Sedins cycle in 2009-10?

July isn't that far off into the future, really. Every now and then, we'll take a look at some of the more interesting free agent situations.

Since we named this crazy little blog after the
Sedin twins, it only makes sense to start with them. Now that the Canucks are out of the playoffs, let's ask: where will those whacky gingers land?


How much are the Sedin twins worth? From what I've read, it sounds like it will take about $13 million to wrap up those weird looking twingers. James Mirtle provided a fantastic rundown detailing the fact that they might just in fact be worth that much cash (and cap space). With that in mind, let's take a look at the teams that should strongly consider wrapping those freakish little Swedes up:

Salary Cap 2009-10: (without Sedins) about $31.3 million; (with Sedins) about $44.3 million

Naturally, the team that drafts you usually gets the benefit of the doubt in re-signing a player. The Canucks have improved this season as players like Alex Burrows and Ryan Kesler raise their games, but they still would be extremely weak offensively if they let their two point-per-game players go via free agency. If the Canucks are willing to tie their future to the Sedin twins, then they have the money to do it.

Almost too obvious, like a reference to the movie "Twins."

New York Islanders
The Islanders cap (with or without the Sedins) is a bit hard to figure because I still haven't quite wrapped my mind around how rookie contracts will show up on the cap. As you may or may not already know, incentive clauses will be reflected differently on next year's cap numbers.

If Hockey Buzz's NHLSCAP page is correct, the Islanders currently have about $32.5 million committed to players going into the 2009-10 season. The good news is that money constitutes nearly enough roster spots to fill a whole team. The bad news is that those roster spots would be filled mostly be awful hockey players.

John Tavares (please tell me the Islanders draft him, they've made enough mistakes already ... just take the big name Canadian forward and move on) will mean a cap hit between $1 million and $4 million. In a worst case scenario, adding the Sedins and Tavares would bring the cap to $50 million.

This would give the Islanders four nice offensive players (Tavares - Sedin twins - Kyle Okposo) to construct to respectable forward lines. This could actually be a good move if Rick Dipietro can bounce back from knee surgery, but there's just so many "ifs" that it would be hard to imagine the Sedin twins going to Long Island.

Could be awesome, but could also be a train wreck ... like the Olsen twins

Nashville Predators
Pre-Sedin Cap: $33 million; With Sedins: $46 million

While it wasn't the first match that came to my head, it almost makes sense. After all, isn't cycling the puck hockey's answer to the line dance? (cricket chirps ... dodges a tomato)

The Predators could conceivably bring the Sedins aboard and pair them up (perhaps) with tail-between-his-legs Alex Radulov to give the team what could be the franchise's greatest line ever. The Sedins seem like they would fit in nicely with the Predators' worker bee mentality.

You'd have to think they could make the playoffs with a core of Sedins-Radulov(?)-Jason Arnott-Shea Weber-Pekka Rinne-J.P. Dumont, right?

Could be brilliant, but might upset mainstream audiences like "Dead Ringers."

The Southern Ontario Team-to-be-Named-Laters
Pre-Sedins Cap: $32.1 million, with Sedins: $45.1 million

If the Coyotes DO get moved, you know Mr. Blackberry will want to bring some top-end talent to a roster that was gutted during the trade deadline. There are some really nice steals and semi-steals on this roster: Shane Doan is a nice power forward who could fit in well with the Sedins at a low price ($4.55 million cap hit) and Kyle Turris/Peter Mueller both have sub-$3 million contracts that could end up being steals in the right situation.

Who knows: the South Hamilton ex-Yotes could end up adding Jay Bouwmeester and the Sedins for $20 million and make a lot of people nervous.

Could be ugly, like the Phoenix Coyotes situation and the movie "Stuck on You."


Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf) said...

What about the Leafs?

Burke can sign Sundin too.

jamestobrien said...

According to their CURRENT numbers, they wouldn't fit the Sedins under the cap.

Of course, knowing Burke he'd probably be able to move a lot of those salaries to accommodate them.

jamestobrien said...

You're right, though, Toronto would make a lot of sense.

Joe said...

I'm guessing the Sedin's finish for about 11-12M total. Getting both of them big contracts while sticking together is going to be VERY hard to do. I'm guessing they stay in Vancouver, unless the Coyotes make it to Hamilton.

Joe said...

Also, Stuck On You was hilarious

jamestobrien said...

I'll admit I was judging "Stuck on You" based on what I've heard about it rather than seeing it. (And the Farrelly brothers recent history) Perhaps I will see it before I put it down next time (doubtful).

Agreed, Joe, I would be pretty shocked if the Sedins left Vancouver.

Dani said...

It will be interesting to see what happens in Vancouver if Gillis decides NOT to resign them.

I've watched a lot of cycling of the puck in my days as a Canucks fan.

To eyebleaf, Burke can have Sundin, we don't want him anymore.

Dominik said...

Nothing captures the creepy awesomeness of the twins like The Shining girls. Bravo.

I figure they'll end up in Vancouver because it's hard to imagine what the Nucks' plan would be without the Sedins. I mean, doesn't Gillis have to sign him/them/it?

Long Island is so far beyond possibility that I don't want to entertain the thought (but I appreciate the inclusion based on their cap situation). They just need to wait for a better lease and save their future cap ducats for the RFA years of Tavares and whoever 2010's Young Teen Hype is.

Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf) said...

@vancitycanuck: Fair enough. But I don't want to hear that Sundin didn't do his job. 8 points in 8 playoff games.

Anonymous said...

they're ginger-ness would match the orange on the Isles' 3rd jersey

Laura (aka Hildymac) said...

Some people are saying that the Thrashers should make a push - we have the cap space.

Considering a few factors (management, tight-ass ownership, last season's free agent wasteland, the fact that we actually DO have a good top line and a pretty good 2nd one, and that our roster's basically full except for a D man and a center), I wouldn't bet on it. But the hilarity of people here figuring out which one's which would be supurb.

Dani said...

@eyebleaf: He's a good 2nd line centre, was ridiculous in faceoffs (most nights) and he finally came through in the playoffs with some points which was nice to see.

But for next year, I hope the 2nd year of the 10 million $ offer isn't still on the table. If it is lower, maybe, but it depends if he's gonna take till December to decide again.

jamestobrien said...

they're ginger-ness would match the orange on the Isles' 3rd jerseyHahaha that's a good one.

Dominik: I'm rooting for the Islanders to start shaping up. I can see a bite sized version of the Penguins revival (get lucky to have true talent in the top pick; positivity of improving/getting a new arena) happening in Long Island. I think their fans have suffered enough.

Anonymous said...

No way Burke picks-up the 'Twins'!
They're not his type of player(s).
You will see{mark my words}, Burke will turn the Leafs into another, mini-version of the Ducks; and the 'Twins' are not Duckesque enough for his liking. Watch him go for the 'biggest/dirtiest picks available.
A leopard does not change its spots; and neither will Burke!

Dani said...

@marq-my-words: Wasn't it Burke who moved mountains to draft the Sedins?

Unknown said...

from godseye33
"they're ginger-ness would match the orange on the Isles' 3rd jersey

May 12, 2009 12:57 PM

Do you even watch hockey? The Sedins may be a lot of things, but one thing they are not is soft. Anytime they go into the corners or along the boards and battle for the puck, they're about 2/3 assured of getting it.

jamestobrien said...

Do you even watch hockey? The Sedins may be a lot of things, but one thing they are not is soft. Anytime they go into the corners or along the boards and battle for the puck, they're about 2/3 assured of getting it.J's right. For a while I thought the Sedins would be soft (Swede prejudice) until I really was able to see them play. Cycling is all about will power and intelligence. The Sedins are not soft.

Plus, recent past shows that Burkie LOVES bringing back old Canucks. If he was willing to bring back career-tailspin era Todd Bertuzzi and broken bodied Brendan Morrison, something tells me he'd be willing to sign the point-per-game twins he moved heaven and earth to draft back in the day.

Anonymous said...

Yes it was Burke who moved mountains..
..the thing that makes this happening tenuous is....he's playing to a different drummer now, and the twins do not fit the mold of his..........
'new dream-team'.... He wants brutes

jamestobrien said...

I agree that Burke prefers "brutes" but right now he's in a best talent available situation. Who knows, he might go with a different template when constructing the Leafs than he did with the Ducks.

Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf) said...

If they hit the market, the Sedins are coming to Toronto. Period.

It's all up to Gillis.